Loved it cheap and best , staff are friendly and deciplined,and we'll trained,
Over service and taste definitely 5 stars
Must to try this place
I orderd a managers thali its very cute packaging as showing in the pics
Seevice was very quik and fast delivered on time taste was very good
I must recomend this resturant for the delicius food and tate like home cook food must orderd for real taste
Staff is very friendly really knows how to make there custoner happy definatily 5stars
Had the maharajah thali and it was amazing. The staff is super friendly and service is great. It was a Friday afternoon and was not crowded. The hot puri and cold buttermilk were divine. Everything on the plate reminded me of home.
This is the one of the place, I added in my favorite restaurant. Food is so good that I had almost every dish in the restaurant. It’s a great place to eat every day food.
Ambiance : 3/5 Taste :5/5 Service :4/5 We have visited only once at this place and this is very small hotel , we have ordered daal baati churma with gatta ka sabji and mango & kessar ke lassi . The taste of the food and lassi was awesome , I would definitely visit this place to have more items for this place
Visited this place because I was craving some chaat items. Waiters are really polite and friendly.
I ordered one pani puri spicy and one suggested from waiter which was the Raj Kachori. To my surprise, the raj kachori was so tasty, so new to me because I never had because the spice, the dahi, the tasty fusion of mixed aloo tikki in every bite gives you the taste. It was fantastic.
Also, the pani puri was very spicy as I wanted. Served with pudina water, daal and one tamarind dip it was very well made with the required garnishing in it. Overall I must say it’s one of the best chaat place in Sharjah. I will highly recommend this place.
Ambience is very nice with a express train design to it. Well maintained and hygenic. The karak chai is also a must try.
Highly recommended 🔥🙌🏻
I loved it this place the way they care about there customer they listen very carefully customer orders
Preparation and presentation to customer very neat and clean
Friendly atmosphere
A theme train design in this cuzy small restaurant
Good taste still in my mouth same like homemade food
Definitely 5 srars
Special daal bhati is very tasty i never taste the daal baati taste as compare to uae restaurant
Raja Kant Kumar Mandal
+5
I ordered the food for my quick lunch so I searched on Google I found pure vegetarian restaurant so I decide to order
Response of call very good
Packing of food perfect meat and clean
Safely delivered
Friendly staff
Food taste pure pure like home made and quantity was good enough 5 star
Over all 5 staff keep it up 👍
Awesome Bati ,good homely food and quantity is good.
I ordered a rajhastani Thali to have a quick lunch at my home with my friends
I found a restaurant on zomato to order the food
I ordered a 3 nos of thalis packaging was perfect with microwave approved material
Perfect qty for the food
Sabji taste is delicious overall food 5 star
Delivery service is very fast staff cooperative and friendly
I orderd managers thali and they deliverd to my house
Delivery time perfect
Taste peefect
Worth for money must try this
Food taste and portion is very good. Little on the spicy side but taste wise very good. The delivery time was also as promised
The food here is very good both taste and quality wise. It is one of very few places in mahatta qasimia which severs quality food at such a good price. Every item in their menu is worth a try.
Their thali's are best compared to other nearby restaurants. Definitely worth a visit, This place will not let you down.
Usually I don't write reviews .. but this surely deserves one .. had Mumbai pizza . It was awesome authentic Mumbai street style ..will surely try more from them
Awesome veg restaurant in all over UAE.
For Indians it's very special and very nice food. I visited 3-4 times. I will prefer to this. Awesome 👍
Thanks.
Definitely a 5 star for them and if there are more stars i would love to give them more for the quality, quantity and taste the serve.
i ordered their maharaja thali. though my location was showing out of delivery area in zomato online delivery , but when called the restaurant the person who answered the call was very very very polite and friendly and accepted our order.
the delivery was on time as promised, the packing of the food was great and the portions served were very much satisfying for an individual.
the delivery person was very polite, friendly and professional.
the thali comes with 6 rotis (perfect thin rajasthani rotis covered in ghee) three currys , i got
PANEER (5+ STAR),
ALLO KI SABZI (5+STAR),
GATTE KI SABZI (5++++++ STARS),
DAL BATI (5 STAR),
PULAO (4 STAR)
PAPAD AND MINI SAMOSA (5 STAR),
1 GULAB JAMUN (5++ STAR),
CHURMA (5++++ STAR),
BUTTER MILK (4 STAR)
along with raita, salad and pickle.
the food was simply out stading , pure authentic rajasthani (jodhpur) flavors and tastes like homely food.
highly recommended to all.
If you need to find Authentic Rajastani cuisine and batti this is the best place in UAE and perfect Host, Try this place for delicious unlimited Rajasthani thali
Good vegetarian food, they can also customize it to no onion-garlic fare...we ordered Manager's thali and it was worth every penny. There was pizza too, yummy but was a bit spicy for the kids despite telling them that we want it non spicy... overall a good experience though due to a bigger crowd they were faltering a little on the service..
Oh this place is a gem!! Their Maharaja thali is just perfect. Sabjis, snacks, desserts everythings yummy. They give enough quantity and food tastes very homely. Its just great.
Recently ordered their weekend special maharaja thali for i was craving some gujrati cuisine.
The packaging was good..no leakage and the portions were good enough too.
Only drawback was they took long to deliver the food and i didnt like the gatta curry much..
Aalu gobi was really yumm amd also daal baati was satisfying.
I have tried their mumbai pizza before which was really yumm..its a good small restaurant serving indian street food and some awesome thalis.
If you are gujju food lover, give them a try for sure 😊
A breakfast that u always expect, a thali of all the things served at the restaurant for breakfast buffet.
Really good poha and paratha.
Their idli was above average also their sabzi.
Chutney was the only thing in the plate that was not up to the mark.
Delicious food specially maharajah thali and paav bhaji
Atmosphere is good friendly staff
Good options of chaat and thali
In maharajah thali dal bhati and paneer is delicious
Have visit yesterday night I tried thali item it was fantastic taste was good I have never found same taste in other veg restaurant loved it
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We happened to pass by this place and decided to give this place a try.
Ambience is nothinng fancy, but has a back ground of a Train, Suryanagri Express which is a train commuting between Mumbai and Jodhpur.
Has a lot of interesting pictures inside this small and cosy restaurant, which reminds you of home.
Coming to food, we did a take away and the packaging was awesome.
They had disposable thali plate which had different items in it.
Good enough quantity for 1 person, it is worth AED 15.
They have two types of thali, express thali and managers thali.
I would highly recommend this place for its friendly staff as well.
This place is a hidden gem of Sharjah.
SuryaNagri Express is a must visit place for every Indian who holds on very closely to it's food. Looking at the menu and the ambiance it let me wonder, was I really away from home.
SuryaNagri Express is the name of a train which operates between Mumbai & Jodhpur (Rajasthan) and the food is highly influenced by the locals dishes from these places. However, it isn't limited to just the cuisine of these places, but broadly covers the whole country.
Delivery time: The order was directly placed with the outlet over a call and it took about 35 minutes which was totally worth waiting.
Packaging: This wasn't anything fancy, but done pretty much right, except for the one of Sev puri, which could be improved as I witnessed slight spillage.
Food:
1)Moong Daal Kachori: I was informed that only a last batch of 2 pieces was left for that day and I am glad that I ordered for them. The size was much smaller than I thought it would be, but the taste was phenomenal. The moong daal masala was really flavoursome with a rich taste of ghee (clarified butter). These were served with green chutney and sweet chutney. I am not a fan of the sweet chutney, but this had such a neat taste, that I ended up drinking the left over one. The dish is priced at AED 10 which is approximately 200 INR, definately looks expensive, but worth every penny.
2)Sev Batata Puri: Found this one to be slightly above average, as the flavour of the green chutney for this one, did not live up to my expectation.
3)Samosa Pav: The size of the samosa was reasonably good and the flavour was decent.
Recommendation:
1)Moong Daal Kachori
Rating:
1)Delivery time: 5/5
2)Packgaing: 3.5/5
3)Food (Taste, Presentation & Portion): 4.5/5
4)Value for money: 4/5
5)Overall: 4/5
Now here comes a outlet which is a hope in desert.We found it on zomato while we were looking for chaats and rajasthani food.The maharaja thaali is their specialty for which you hv to be there on weekends.
My mother never eats pizza but first time she tried here as the owners made sure that it is without egg plus the cheese is also 100% veg.
Kids also loved their falooda.So I think all veg lovers must try this outlet.
Authentic Rajasthani and Mumbai food
Taste is amazing must try and you will like owner is very friendly and parking facility is available
Place is small but very clean good for family
A perfect place for evening tea and chats. Masala chai and all chats are perfect, brings backs the true flavours . Even though small, the interiors are made attractive with train posters .
Amazing place to get the taste of mumbai. Good options of chaat and thali's too. Moong daal kachori and the chutneys with it are the best ones to try from here. Also Sev puri is really good. Pav bhaji is a little flat taste.
We have food here every fortnight and love the taste... from where should I start, daal bati, pizza, dabeli, tava pulav everything is awesome
i am really impressed with this place. THE food is amazing , i am getting those bombay vibes ❤. pav bhaji and bhel puri are must try from this restaurant. The staff is friendly and quick . overall a really good experience
Wow!We found a amazing outlet in sharjah.We went there on 7th December. Being north Indian we are fond of mumbai and rajasthani food,but were always disappointed wherever we visited but Suryanagri express opened our taste buds. The concept and the food was awesome.We tried maharaja thaali and dal baati choorma.I am sure you will not find the same taste anywhere in UAE.The amazing part is you can order all the dishes without onion garlic.My parents who dont eat onion and garlic were so happy to eat there.
After few weeks one of our friend gave a party in suryanagri express's party hall.All the arrangements were nice and the food was awesome.Also the party hall was spacious.They kept chocolate fountain and gems for kids.We all enjoyed too much.
We checked in dis place once for lunch and it has become a regular visit from then. Every time we are pleased with an amazing dish. The thali’s here are always relished by us. All the chaat items are up to the mark. Special mention for the Pizza varieties served here, THE BEST, I must say. The staffs are very friendly. Overall very much satisfied.
This was the second time we went there and the experience was even more fantastic as now they have free parking available which previously was a problem..We tried cheese paav bhaji and my kids tried mumbai pizza..Also we tried kulfi falooda and malai gola
All the items were delicious and mouthwatering. I wish them good luck and thanks to the owners who were welcoming and also the ambiencecwas very nice.
Will surely visit again to try all of their dishes.
welcome drink is good..Food is excellent.. staff are good .. ambience is also nice .. but need to include restroom there.. but all the way restaurant is very nice
Being away from home , I was craving a lot for Rajasthani food . Searched for a good Rajasthani restaurant on zomato which can satisfy my taste buds . Then came across this restaurant, ordered pav bhaji and maharaja thali . All the dishes in the thaali were excellent and made me feel like home , pav bhaji was served hot and tasted delicious . Uncle and aunty were very nice and humble . Will surely recommend it to all my near and dear ones . Hence I give you guys 5 star ;)
Best place for home made food with auntie’s Care and love like a mother. ....Each dish cooked till the perfection ....Please visit if you are missing your home.....
Delicious food...all items are tasty, Service people are so good..
Had Officer thali unlimited many times and really unlimited 😎😎😎
Referring others too..
Only problem is small dining area.. but very comfortable for 15 people at a time..
The best rajasthani food. If u miss the authentic rajasthani food this is definately the place to visit. All the items are freshly made. Clean and hygienic place. The owner aunty is very welcoming. My daughter called her dadi (dats how sweet she is). We had the Maharaja thali and a cheese pizza for our daughter. Both of wch were awesome. The gatte ki sabzi, dal baati, churma, bajre ki roti with ghee and gudh were the hits. The other vegetables, chaas, juice, snacks, etc. were good too... later we also ordered the malai gola which was also nice.
Salman Fariz and i were searching in zomato for a good vegetarian restaurant across Sharjah. We tried quite a few until then, but they were so-so. Then, we found this restaurant which has got nice rating in Zomato. Actually, we were in that area couple of time but couldn't locate this restaurant as they have different name outside. Finally, we found this restaurant that had a train on its backdrop that symbolically connects Rajasthan and Mumbai. So obviously, they will cater Rajasthani and Maharashtrian food. Since then, we have been there quite a few times.
Our absolute favorite is ragada pattice. It's basically served as a snack with a thick potato patty in a green peas gravy and sweet /sour chutneys. The original version is good and we can ask them to alter as per our liking.
We tried pav bhaji as well. It tasted authentic with rich flavors. We have to try other versions of pav bhaji as weell.
Our next favorite is paani puri. The puri was very fresh and crispy . Potato filling was mixed with herbs and spices. As a bonus we have green peas gravy and two types of chutneys as well. I could say straight away that its the best paani puri I've had in uae.
We have tried vada paav, masala chai, dhabeli, samosas, mirchi vada and managers thali too. They all are awesome.
Ambience : place is small and in weekdays not fully packed either. They keep everything neat and tidy. Inside is decorated with photos from Mumbai and Rajasthan. Those are neat, but not that over the top either.
Customer interaction : there is an old couple who runs the place, they love to smile. It's earnest, we could feel it. They love to talk and when you've that with nice food it really fills our mind as well as our tummy.
One drawback is, there's a lady, she has a little harsh attitude towards the servers and even though she's smiling at us we could feel that it's artificially made. But she's not always there in the restaurant.
Parking after 9 and on weekends is also a bother.
Interested in an authentic rajasthani veg treat? This is the place..!
First and foremost, Achari paneer pizza. Heavily reccomended treat for your mouth.
We had ordered Suryanagri special combo (sharing for 2 persons), which was very tasty and appetite filling considering the unlimited quantity on rice, rotis and curries.
Slight drawback is parking which is difficult during peak times, but for this taste ready to park anywhere.
A simple and humble hotel with excellent authentic food.
It was lazy day to go out for lunch for me, but since the wife was insistent on Thali, we decided to visit here! This is our second time to this cosy, yet friendly Rajasthani restaurant and the last time I couldn't write a review for the same reasons I wasn't in the mood for lunch ;).
Uncle Vyas (owner/partner) who hails from Mumbai makes this place really family friendly and homely. He personally ensures the food is well cooked, served fresh and to the liking of the customers.
Their menu is super Indian with a superb touch of Mumbai! We ordered the Suryanagari Special thali, Mumbai Pizza and Chaaj. The thali sabzi variety is good and the kachori served fresh and hot as starters was awesome!
Ambience - Place is decently small. When you are seated, you feel you are at a railway station with the train dabba concept, behind which the kitchen sits. Personally, I like the interiors with pictures of Aamchi Mumbai on one side and the beautiful Jodhpur on the other side! With the entire outside wall of glass, there's a lot of natural light coming in.
Food - Awesome homely food taste, freshly made items make you feel so much at home! I loved the Thali and the pizza, and the halwa and the Chaaj. Fresh chapatis keep rolling in. Sabzi sounds are also unlimited (I think), I took 3 rounds of paneer and daal.
Price - I paid around 55 AED for all this and my stomach can't stop thanking the chef who makes such taste bud tingling food!
Overall, it's a good family joint, with good ambience, food and price. Go give it a try! I'm sure you will not be disappointed.
HUSSAIN UDEPURWALA (@laurel_hardy_uae)
+5
It feels like we are at the railway stations eating our lunch or dinner . Small place with real good food.pan puri , Raj kachori pav bhaji and Bombay sandwich is ek dum apna Mumbai style
Come and enjoy the food
Tried their maharajah thaali, paav bhaaji
Excellent taste for both
Really enjoyed
Looking forward to try other dishes
Highly recommended
Must try
Nice chaat place nearer to home. Happy with everything we tried so far. Highly recommended when you are in the mood for chatpata chaat or dhahi batata puri
Ordered dahi batata puri.... really yumm mouthwatering it was... followed by dal bati really authentic taste of Rajasthan.... with mango lassi to quench the thirst with amul pav bhaji real taste... simple crisp light in the end our desi barf golla... good hospitality must go
Tasty authentic Rajasthani food. Freshly prepared. Served lovingly. Their thalis are very good. The owner uncle and his wife are very friendly and reflect the hospitality of Rajasthani people. Prices are reasonable. Parking available in walkeable distance. Best Rajasthani food in Dubai/Sharjah region.
Food here was probably the tastiest vegetarian I've had so far in UAE... we had our baby's first birthday party here last Saturday, and it was a great feeling... thank u Suryanagari Express for an awesome venue n delicious food...our guests were happy and so were we... special thanks to Mamta who stayed there throughout the event n had our backs n made sure everything went on well...
Few weeks back we visited this restaurant randomly selected.
SuryaNagri express. Interiors themed as if we are really in an Indian Train travelling from Mumbai to Jodhpur with mumbai and jodhpur themed wall on either sides and train in between.
Tasty vegetarian snacks, Chaat and dinner restaurant.
Pav Bhaji, Papdi chaat and Gol gappe were tasty. Mumbai pizza we ordered is a typical indian pizza reminding us being back in india.
Chocolate Samosa was something nice and different that we have seen.
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Love the amabiance nice Indain train at backdrop with lot of picture showing rich heritage of Rajasthan , place is run by husband and wife both love to talk , home away from home feeling .
Food and service is amazing we had maharaj thali it was delicious, not much oil nor excess of butter everything was just perfect in fact we very so happy we went in evening again to have some snack
So first in lunch we had small portion salad along with buttermilk and then thali which had 3-4 vegetable , daal and in end Sweet dish
In evening we had pav baji, veg sandwiches and achari pizza all the items we good in taste specially pav baji it's not spicy nor tasteless it was just perfect .
Negative point parking big hassle in evening, trying going in lunch hours .
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Veg Rajasthani thali is amazing. Not to forget the yummy chats as the starters and cheese pav bhaji was delicious too. Very courteous and friendly staff.
This is one wonderful place if one is looking for a fine northwest Indian food,the best thing with these guys is they make one of the best chapatis(Phulkas)in the town,get assured you will have one of the best Indian meal in UAE at a very low price.
Vignesh Jayaraman Balaji
+4
Very nice restaurant for chaat items... Exactly priced and the items are in correct quantity. The outlet is not so big but this can surely be given a try to tingle all the 'chaat'ness in ur tongue... 😍😋
best thali in the UAE,
if you can ignore rush and bit delay in the service, they prepare everything so fresh that you will simply say wow with each bite and will forget all thalis you ever had it in UAE.better then all big names, run by family from Jodhpur and partner from mumbai, train interior and name perfectly the food they serve, simply best.
we had combo for just AED 45 for 2 people at this price in many place you get only 1 thali.
so in combo pack we got 2 chaat items,
Amul Paav Bhaaji, and
Maharaja Thali.
started with snacks, chaat, and welcome drink, then paav bhaaji which is followed by Thali which had authentic Gatta Sabji and Daal Baati.
Amul paav bhaaji was supberb, pav was very soft and well done so as delicious Amul butter bhaji.
Thali and chaat will spoil your taste buds and will not let you stop from eating, if I have counted well then almost 22 items, each worth and best.
gr8 place, lovely owners, food is just like heaven, Maharaja thaali is too good, you won't get such delicious thali even in Rajdhani or Raso. Paav Bhaaji and Pizza will take you back to mumbai, paav bhaaji is best in all over UAE. Daal Baati will sure make think you are in Rajasthan. Best part is the train interior, in such a small area this is best kind of interior i have seen. good job guys gr8 going.
One of the hidden gems in Sharjah.. Very small Gujarati place.. been there for dinner with family.. not very crowded. The owners were very friendly.
Coming to the food part, Maharajah thali was excellent .. huge verity of subjis. Kadi was remarkably tasty, not to mention everything was just just perfect. even at 10pm the food was very hot and fresh. Just loved the experience.
Only thing is space is a bit constraint
Sure return. Score 8/10
It’s been a while I am craving for authentic pav bhaji and discovered this hidden gem which is nearby to my home.
They have limited seatings and small space but loved their interior and it’s Train themed cafeteria as their name says Suryanagri Express.
Pav Bhaji along with little butter is good with right amount of spice and flavor. I think this has to be the best Pav Bhaji you get in UAE.
I had there Masala Tea and it was average.
Service was quick since I was the only customer there at evening. I usually see its crowded after 8.
My ratings are 4.5 and I can’t add extra 0.5 in the Zomato app.
Mouthwatering food. We ordered Dal Bati, Grilled Sandwich, Tawa Pulav and Gulab Jamun. Everything was super yummy. Will visit again for sure.
Small restaurant but food makes it bigger !!
Good food well served .
They have Best dal bati available in town .
Three cheers guys good going!!
Its a wonderful place to enjoy Indian Veg food!!🇮🇳
Starting from the flavours of Mumbai to Jodhpur yummy tasty dishes.
Thali's are too Good!!
Dont miss their Pav Bhaji😊
Keep it up👍😊
#Suryanagri Express!!
We loved the yummy Aloo Parathas for Breakfast.
Any one who is hungry should go for the breakfast tiffin buffet.
Very small place but well run. Will return whenever we want parathas .
Visited today this superb place today. Those who are wondering about this unique name ‘Suryanagari Express’, it’s basically a train which plies between Jodhpur and Mumbai. This is exactly the theme of restaurant. We can experience a variety of dishes from Rajasthan and Mumbai. The interior is very simple yet unique. With a backdrop of pantry of a train one can witness the photos of Mumbai and Rajasthan on the walls facing each other.
We tried Daal baati churma, Bombay cheese sandwich, cheese pav bhajj and Lassi. All the four items were excellent and very tasty. Sandwich and pav bhaji took me back to my good old days in Mumbai.
The quantity is decent and the price is pocket friendly. Service is relatively quick.
The timings of the restaurant is very unique. The breakfast is available on Fri and Sat. Rajasthani specialities are available on Thu to Sat. And on weekdays the restaurant opens at 11.30 am. In my opinion, it is very well thought timings with respect to the cuisines offered on those days and the location of the restaurant.
Overall all it was a great experience and I strongly recommend to visit this place.
Discovered this gem of a restaurant! A small yet well designed place with a backdrop of Indian Train! Has around 5-6 tables to seat families! The menu isn’t vast but has everything from chats to thalis to snacks and even kulfi-faloodas and the very famous ice-golas in variety! Everything is top-notch! The quality quantity and the service are excellent!
The owners of the place one a Mumbaikar and the other a Rajasthani are both very warm people! They have crafted the menu with the best of their cities!
The chaats...the thalis and the ‘Pav Bhaji’ especially the cheese and dryfruit one is out of this world! The ‘Cheese Tawa Pulao’ is also worth a drool!
Never had this kind of a Pav Bhaji anywhere! It’s delicious and you’ll come back for more no matter where you stay!
This enterprise is a serious threat to other ‘thali serving’ Indian restaurants which lack the punch and are highly priced!
I so hope you open branches everywhere! Kudos to team for giving us all a delicious authentic Indian food option in UAE!
Just the perfect place if u want to have Mumbai chaat, exactly the Taste of Mumbai & also their Maharaja Thali Rajasthani style was good. Reasonable n good quantity.
Very nice food...
We had ordered pav bhaji,tawa pulao and daal baati churma.Loved pav bhaji and tawa pulao...it was very yummy..I would surely visit again to try Maharaja thali
Lovely food, freshly prepared to perfection. Feels like dining inside a super fast express. Thali, chaat, sweets and chocolate samosa were simply too good.
Our main food joint .... i do not want to write much .. but we have been taking there Mini samosas to all our gatherings. chaat, pizza, samosha, vada pav ..mirchi vada , all exceptional.... And there thalli is just waooooooooooo.
I have to spcly mention there take away thali .... some how i could not eat it on same day ... but boy when i ate it next day it was just as awesome as fresh...spicy the roti ..you can eat it fro 3 days...
Whether you love food or not ... you must eat from this joint.. Keep it UP guyzzzzz you all are doing a great job making ppl happy.
Best Cheese Masala Paav in all UAE.. simply wow,
me and my family has tried their manager and maharaja thali during weekends as well, which is much better then many known names in Dubai and value for money, Train decor specially which makes you feel like back in india, kids simply loved it, soon will be having party for my kids in their party hall which is just at next building, will post soon pics for that as well.
Secluded in the inner skirts of Sharjah, this place turned out to be serving the best Bombay food i’ve tasted in UAE so far.
From options ranging from plan to cheese and cheese grilled for all Bombay items like Dabeli, Pav bhajji, Sandwich etc.
It also did send me down the memory lane, with photos of events in Mumbai, and a background of the Indian railways which has a special fascination for me, since childhood.
Been there with my Filipino girlfriend and she absolutely took a liking for the Pani Pure & Malai Kulfi
Seriously a very nice n home made food.. though service is little late but it's worth to wait for the food served in this restaurant.
Dal Bati with Churma awwwwsum and Kair Sangri is ultimate. Dal bati lovers must try..
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